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ProteusSF COMMENTS

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:40 pm
by AlexChess
THE PAST:

ProteusSF RBE 008c (Rocky Balboa Edition) 18/07/2022 Updated: last NET, EXP and book!  
New builds ProteusSF RBE 008c based on StockfishMZ thanks to the kindness of Marco Zerbinati with all my original mods in PSQT.cpp, Pawn.cpp and Evaluate.cpp for a more active but rock solid style, latest huge 600 MB ProteusSF.exp by @Sarona @Igor and me,
@dorsz DOTS5 Unbalanced test suite and Eduard Nemeth's Solista 010722 Tournament bin book in packages ALL IN ONE!

Download it here -> https://rb.gy/8vo84j 4.700 downloads until now!!!

PEACE WORLDWIDE!!!
Only sport fights are allowed
(...and mental challenges like
chess are absolutely the best!)


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FREE Stockfish Derivative GPLv3 compliant based on all best SF & derivative sources

  • Learning code from SugaR by Khalid Omar optimized against all top engines following Sarona's suggestions
  • Learning data ProteusSF.exp made by Ron Doughie (Sarona) , me and @Igor1959 of 600 MB
  • ProteusSF Experience Tools by Marco Zerbinati
  • NNUE support
  • Polyglot support
  • Eduard Nemeth's Solista 010722 BIN book for engine matches optimized against all top books
  • Proteus Infinite Book PGN | BIN (40000 ICCS games 2300-2600 ELO for long time analysis)
  • Dorsz's Unbalanced PGN Openings Test Suite 5

(All attributions and sources are on the zip files)

DOTS5 (Dynamic Openings Test Suite 5) by dorsz is out! http://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php ... 7d04423574





Watch how Dragon 3.0 crushes latest Stockfish-dev 220724 without NNUE
(TC 2 hours 40 moves + 30 secs / all - 5 Mn/s - Tablebases SYGYZY 6 MAN - NO BOOK)







ProteusSF RBE 008c gauntlet against all top chess engines:

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DOWNLOAD ALL 312 GAMES https://pixeldrain.com/u/GGtiTMWa


STOCKFISH-DEV 070622 against all GPLv3 derivatives roundrobin

8moves_v3.pgn book (Used for testing by Stockfish Developers) https://github.com/official-stockfish/books
120 balanced openings repeated on both sides - 240 games for each engine - 5 mins + 2 secs / ALL -

Processor APPLE Silicon M1 8 Compute Cores 3.20 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - MacOS 12.4 - 512 MB - hash – BanksiaGui – Permanent Brain: OFF - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5-6 pieces - both engines play with 8 threads 6 MN/S - LEARNING always ON for both - Ponder OFF

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ALL 1320 PGN GAMES UNTIL NOW https://pixeldrain.com/u/Yax1VKkq June 28, 2022 08:20 GMT+1

Corchess 3 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - BrainLearn 17 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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BrainLearn 17 - Corchess 3 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Corchess 3 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Corchess 3 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - BrainLearn 17 1-0
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BrainLearn 17 - Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 0-1
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StockfishMZ 230522 - Crystal 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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StockfishMZ 230522 - Crystal 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - BrainLearn 17 1-0
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - StockfishMZ 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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StockfishMZ 230522 - Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - StockfishMZ 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE - Shashchess 22 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Shashchess 22 - Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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BrainLearn 17 - Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE 0-1
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE - StockfishMZ 230522 NO LEARNING FEATURE 0-1
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Crystal 4.0 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE -Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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BrainLearn 17 - Kayra 1.4 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Stockfish 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Kayra 1.4 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Corchess 3 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - Kayra 1.4 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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Shashchess 22 - Kayra 1.4 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - BrainLearn 17 1-0
ANIMATED CHESSBOARD
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - Corchess 3 NNUE 070622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - Shashchess 22 1-0
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - Shashchess 22 1-0
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - Shashchess 22 1-0
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Shashchess 22 - ProteusSF Aurora 009 1-0
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Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE - ProteusSF Aurora 009 1-0
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ProteusSF Aurora 009 - Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE - ProteusSF Aurora 009 0-1
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ProteusSF RBE 008b - Swordfish 15.2 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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Blue Marlin 15.2a NO LEARNING FEATURE - ProteusSF RBE 008b 1-0
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ProteusSF RBE 008b - Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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ProteusSF RBE 008b - Crystal 4.0 NNUE 130622 NO LEARNING FEATURE 1-0
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MINI MATCHES 25 POSITIONS / 50 GAMES REVERSING SIDES
DOTS5 UNBALANCED TEST SUITE ANDROID 8 CPUs 500 KN/S



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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/Vope2A9Y

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/tFJDppmZ

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/ksankSuf

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/LA2t1aeV

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/vubFvmFh

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/wHacMLtY

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/tqH5wCLk

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ALL 50 GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/t7A4KApY

Superfinal Jeroen Noomen's selected 50 positions gauntlets
100 games repeating every position on reverse side


Processor APPLE Silicon M1 8 Compute Cores 3.20 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - MacOS 12.4 - 512 MB - hash – BanksiaGui – Permanent Brain: OFF – opening book: TCEC22 PGN 50 positions switching colors (100 games) - final tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5-6 pieces - both engines play with 8 threads 6 MN/S - LEARNING always ON for both - Ponder OFF
(Windows 11 ARM64 4 CPUS 4 GB 1.7 MN/s only for engines not available on Mac M1 -> WHITE CROSSTABLES)

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ALL 100 PGN games ProteusSF RBE 008b versus Shashchess 22 +13 for ProteusSF RBE 008b

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ALL 100 PGN games ProteusSF RBE 008b versus Eman 8.0.3  +1 for ProteusSF RBE 00Bb

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ALL 100 PGN games ProteusSF RBE 008b versus StockfishMZ 190522 +9 for ProteusSF RBE 008b

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ALL 100 PGN games ProteusSF RBE 008b versus BrainLearn 15.2  +6 for ProteusSF RBE 00Bb

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ALL 100 PGN games ProteusSF RBE 008b versus Eman 7.93  +1 for ProteusSF RBE 00Bb. An Hitchcock thrilling until the end!!!


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All 100 Kayra 1.4's PGN GAMES +7 for ProteusSF RBE 00Bb. [UNOFFICIAL TEST- ENGINE WITHOUT LEARNING]

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All 100 SwordFish 15.2 PGN GAMES +7 for ProteusSF RBE 00Bb. [UNOFFICIAL TEST- ENGINE WITHOUT LEARNING]

DEPRECATED ProteusSF RBE 008a old tests. Switch to 008b that is stronger!!!

ProteusSF RBE 008a - Predator 2.2 bin against KAYRA 1.4 + KAYRA 1.1.bin book
30 mins + 5 secs / all 500 KN/s Android 8 CPus
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ALL 100 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/ijU6jkYS

ProteusSF RBE 008a - Predator 2.2 bin against StockfishMZ 230522 + MANTIS-X5.bin book
30 mins + 5 secs / all 500 KN/s Android 8 CPus

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ALL 100 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/AwcZzK7V

ON MAC MINI M1 8 CPUs 6 MN/s
TCEC22 Superfinal Jeroen Noomen select
50 unbalanced openings repeated on both sides (100 games)
blitz 5 mins + 2 secs / ALL - Syzygy Tablebases 6 man


TOP ENGINES - 3 MINS + 2 SECS / ALL -
TABLEBASES 6 MAN ON MAC M1 - 6 MN/s -
USING PREDATOR 2.2.BIN +1.5 OVER KAYRA 1.4 + KAYRA 1.1 BIN


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ALL 450 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/JKuEAX2c

ProteusSF RBE 008a Predator 2.2.bin book against KAYRA 1.3 +1 /100
30 mins + 5 secs / all 500 KN/s Android 8 CPus

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ALL 100 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/ijU6jkYS

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ALL 100 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/Qjt146rG

ANIMATED CHESSBOARD OF MY ONLY WIN: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... VNMzI,.gif


Dragon 3.0 against ProteusSF RBE 008a 0-1
Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man


ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... ZoU0Q,.gif

ProteusSF RBE 008a against Shashchess 22 1-0
Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man


ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... JaODk,.gif


ProteusSF RBE 008a against Shashchess 22 1-0
Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man


ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... l-NDY,.gif


ProteusSF RBE 008a against Shashchess 22 1-0
Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man


ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... 1ZGI,.gif

ProteusSF RBE 008a against Corchess 3 220522 1-0
Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man


ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... ZMUzA,.gif

ProteusSF RBE 008a against StockfishMZ 190522 (NOT ICCF) 1-0
Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man


ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... 4RVZS.gif

ProteusSF RBE 008a against Swordfish 15.2 1-0
[b]Eduard Nemeth's Predator 2.2.bin book
TEST
3 mins + 2 secs / all 6 Mn/s Tablebases 6 Man

ANIMATED CHESSBOARD: https://images.chesscomfiles.com/upload ... 5lVk4,.gif


STARTED LAST TEST before release + LEARNING CYCLE AGAINST StockfishMZ by Marco Zerbinati with my compile for Mac M1 6 Mn/s

ALL 100 PGN GAMES (sorted by side) https://pixeldrain.com/u/WvGLQ1HS

50-50 /100 AGAINST StockfishMZ!!
[b]NOTE:
StockfishMZ.exp still empty and using 8moves_v3.bin ..ProteusTournBook.bin is optimized against it.

Already compiled all final RBE builds for Windows, Android and Mac M1 :)


ProteusSF EXP 008 +2 after 300 games against Deep Blue!
(very strong closed source not GPLv3 SF derivative by unknown author)

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All 300 PGN games: https://pixeldrain.com/u/qePZLGEH

Wow! From a friend privately testing ProteusSF EXP 008:

ProteusSF EXP 008 + ProteusTournBook.bin - Learning ON +13 vs Dragon 3 - 5 Mins + 2 Secs /ALL

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ALL 100 PGN GAMES https://pixeldrain.com/u/E73RP3yy

ProteusSF EXP 008 + ProteusTournBook.bin vs Polyfish 220507 + Perfect2021.bin 50-50
Android 8 CPUs 400 KN/s TC: 10 mins + 2 secs / All


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ALL PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/Y3LCsuJy

Good result because is the first learning run and Polyfish 220507 by Omar Khalid is the latest Stockfish-dev + Polyglot with a newer net than ProteusSF EXP 008

ProteusSF JBE 007 +3 / 100 vs Shashchess 22
TC 10 mins + 2 secs / all Android 500 Mn/s 8 CPUs


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ALL 100 games played: https://pixeldrain.com/u/c5LsyLoV


ProteusSF JBE 007 +3 vs Crystal 220504
Android 8 CPUS 400 Kn/s - 100 games - ProteusBook Test


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Proteus SF JBE 007 + ProteusBook.bin vs SwordFish 15.1 NO BOOK - 10 mins + 5 secs - Android 8 CPUs 500 kn/s



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ALL 100 PGN games: https://pixeldrain.com/u/9EZnRhPG

PS: Swordfish has no Polyglot support but is using the new nn-d0b74ce1e5eb.nnue

ALL PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/fzogeDcz

DELTA TEST ProteusSF EXP 008 vs Zahak 10.0 UNOFFICIAL Archimedes build

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62 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/YQKzvmX9

Sadly it crashes very often even with Snapdragon 870 (used because it's written in GO and calculates very few KN/s and since my personal smartphone becomes very hot using all 8 CPUs, I fear to damage the battery and I stop the test. These are the complete games, only 3 draws by Zahak 10.0 until now.

DELTA TEST: Proteus SF JBE 007 vs Ethereal 13.61 GITHUB NO NNUE +72

ANDROID 8 CPUs 500 MN/S

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ALL PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/FxsD9TVz

I already know that Ethereal 13.xx Github without NNUE (due to Andrew Grant decision to release the open source version only as a demo) cannot compete against every Stockfish and SF derivative, top original engines like Koivisto 8.6, Berserk 8.5.1, Fire 8.NNMC.3, Rubichess 2022, Seer 2.5.0 and probably also against Fritz 8 neuronal an Hiarcs 15.

...Here the test is related on how many games Proteus SF JBE 007 is able to win against not Stockfish & SF derivatives. :sm015:

DELTA TEST ProteusSF JBE 007 +44 vs Fire 8NN.MC.3
Android 8 CPUs 400 KN/s - ProteusBook.bin Test


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ALL PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/6cqrwkg8

DELTA TEST ProteusSF JBE 007 +45 vs Berserk 8.5.1
Android 8 CPUs 500 KN/s - ProteusBook.bin Test

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ALL PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/MTPkC33W


ProteusSF JBE 007 +12 OVER SF PB 220401 in a 100 games Blitz 3 mins + 2 secs / all on Windows 11 4 CPUs 2 Mn/s!

TCEC 2021 Joroen Noomen select book switching color Tablebases Syzygy 6 Man LEARNING ENABLED

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ALL 100 PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/3fbtwG84


PROTEUS SF JBE 007 CRUSHES SF PB 220401 on Mac mini M1 8 CPUs 6.5 Mn/s !!

TC: 3 mins + 2 secs / ALL - TCEC 21 Jeroen Noomen select (50 positions switching sides)

100 games - Tablebases Sygyzy 6 Man - LEARNING ENABLED

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ALL PGN GAMES: https://pixeldrain.com/u/RuXngwoF

All ProteusSF JBE 007 builds for Mac M1, Windows x64 and Android have been released at the link https://bit.ly/3HLexsP

Re: Proteus Chess SF - COMMENTS

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:31 pm
by AlexChess
AlexChess wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:44 am PLEASE POST IN THIS TOPIC YOUR COMMENTS
OR WILL BE MOVED HERE BY ME FROM ABOVE ;)


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Hi Eduards! We use Playchess.com to test all ProteusSF settings values, so it's normal to find results and ELO that suddenly go up and down, plus there are frequent server disconnections. Even, consider that hardware there varies from Raspberry PI-3 up to ThreadRipper 128 threads, so isn't absolutely a good benchmark. For me it's only a way to meet AI, Zeus, Hypnos and other engines not publically shared.

Thanks For your comment, Alex


Hi @Dorsz Welcome! I've seen on Playchess.com that you have released new engines, I'll play against online and try locally them, too.

@Solista I think that @dorsz would be the right person to ask to add the learning feature to Blue Marlin 15.2b, tough some time ago I have added Polyglot to it and he seemed not very interested about that. But let me know if I can be useful to you with ProteusSF RBE 008b with some changes.

Kind regards, Alex

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In Greek mythology, Proteus (/ˈproʊtiəs, -tjuːs/;[1] Ancient Greek: Πρωτεύς, Prōteus) is an early prophetic sea-god or god of rivers and oceanic bodies of water, one of several deities whom Homer calls the "Old Man of the Sea" (hálios gérôn).[2] Some who ascribe a specific domain to Proteus call him the god of "elusive sea change", which suggests the constantly changing nature of the sea or the liquid quality of water. He can foretell the future, but, in a mytheme familiar to several cultures, will change his shape to avoid doing so; he answers only to those who are capable of capturing him. From this feature of Proteus comes the adjective protean, meaning "versatile", "mutable", or "capable of assuming many forms". "Protean" has positive connotations of flexibility, versatility and adaptability.

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[Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus]
You unlocked the topic, now we can be able to comment, it ws difficult 🤧

ProteusSF COMMENTS

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:10 pm
by AlexChess
Hi dear Ediot,

I had chosen to completely ignore your clownes, since you has been quiet for a while. Maybe you have visited your psychiatrist for your uncontrollable rage??? :lol: :lol: :lol: Calling your engine Smile instead of Torero x3 Pro Plus Plus hasn't solved your mood issues.

This screenshot is taken from Lichess.org Leaderboard.

This is my Team on Leaderboard All my friends here are welcome in Lichess. For me is much better than Playchess, You can also use Mac and Linux engines and watch all the games LIVE from a web browser or Android & Apple smartphones and tablets. There are a lot of interesting statistics and is ALL FREE and open source.

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As my dear fans here can watch, I'm not only NOT BANNED from this group (that's anyway only a little Team. not rappresenting the real Lichess.org) but right now I'm #1 exactly like on Playchess.com. BANNED rule is related to not playing with weaker BOTs. (the exact contrary to what is considered FAIRPLAY on Playchess.com :lol: But since I admire the work of original engines authors, I absolutely don't care about Leaderboard and play ALSO with Admete_bot, AKS_Mantissa, Cheng-4 , Boris_Trapsky and a lot of other funny bots. Only ProteusSF-Aureo and ProteusSF-Godot are fully Leaderboard compliants respecting all their rules, because my new challenge is to reach 3000+ ELO bullet, blitz and rapid (2600 classical) even only playing with 2800+ engines.

Since now I'm sure that you will continue to stalk me, after Ed Schoreder, Chris Whittington and others: read you next time, but don't forget to take your medicines, because your hate against the World is growing every day more.. :shock:
Eduard Nemeth wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:44 am [...VARIOUS EDIOT's BULLSHITS...]

Re: Proteus Chess SF - COMMENTS

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:45 am
by AlexChess
LICHESS HAPPY FARMING CHALLENGE

BULLET RANKINKS September 22, 2023

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4 ProteusSF-Aureo bots on top 4 :)
2 ProteusSF-Aureo bots on Leaderboard Team bullet ranking

Somebody call it farming, others cheating. I call it PURE FUN!

It's absolutely not easy because against original engines like ArasanX, CodingAdventures, Berserk_NNUE, MarvinXBOT, Cheng-4, Admete_bot you must ONLY WIN! A draw = -12 points a lost game -24 points. Against them I lose only for server disconnections or time lags on bullet. Partecipe reaching me HERE!

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AGAIN? I'm Not banished on Lichess.org. I'm 1th and 4th right now with my 2 bots partecipating to Leaderboard WHERE WE ARE ALL FRIENDS, respecting each others. ProteusSF. ProteusSF-Open, ProteusSF-Lite and ProteusSF-Turbo simply aren't included by Leaderboard because I'm playing ALSO with weaker bots like Admete_bot, Cheng-4, Aks-Mantissa and Marvin_bot that are very funny to play for their risky tactical style, but there CONTRARY to Paychess.com policies, it is considered UNFAIR. You are a LIAR, a loser, you have no programming knowledge and you have mental issues.

You are spreading FAKE things about me, so I announce a wide discredit campaign about you on BanksiaGui WHERE YOU ARE BANNED since 1 year, until you stop offending me.

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Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:09 pm
by AlexChess
"??? What is written there in not mine"

LiAR!

It's only to show who really you are.

-You judge the others not having the skills to do that.

-You don't play with me and don't let others like IG-88a using your "engines" to do that and the same is for my other betatesters, saying that you play only FULL AUTO, while you are #1 of Cherry Pickers. (At least first on something) :lol:

Stop writing about me HERE and in other topics and I will instantly stop to answer you or talking about everything related to you.

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:44 pm
by AlexChess
Who is really CHEATING right now on Playchess.com is Psycotrance playing dozens of games against his other account AsRock. Spanishes are true cherry pickers, but since they are Eduard friends, he doesn't say nothing about them.

That demonstrates that he hates me for no reason (I have even sent to him ProteusSF-Sunrise for a kndness, never answering to me) :cry:

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A true loser, a liar and a fake person.

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:02 am
by AlexChess
NOTE: The Lichess.org members revealing to EDIOT my secrets :mrgreen: Is the bigger cherry picker there: Emptik, that is also on Openchess and is angry with me because I don't play with him anymore, since is a VERY UNFAIR PLAYER :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:52 pm
by AlexChess
Not banned at all from Lichess.org, I have accepted that 4 of my bots are excluded only by a very little Team (group) called Leaderboards of Bots (I can re-enter when I like if I don't play anymore with very interesting Original tactical bots like AVK-Mantissa , Boris-Trapsy, Admete and Marvin_Bot. ON LEADERBOARD ProteusSF-Aureo and Godot are on TOP and we are all friends, excluding your whisperer :lol:

EDIOT, have you taken your pills today? It seems that your rage attacks due to your invidia are becoming worse... :shock:

Peace be with you... :mrgreen:

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:16 pm
by AlexChess
@Emptik

so you was ALSO "cherry picking" against me by night (was 6:00 AM when I casually noticed that I was dropped down from 2929 ELO to 2801 ELO not
losing a single game :shock:

"...But who can cast the first stone?" I forget you, remaining on a biblic theme. AND PEACE BE WITH YOU, AS EDIOT SAYS while is offending everyone :lol:

On Playchess.com is considered fair to play with weaker opponents, while on Lichess.org is fair to play only with stronger ones. People is crazy, isn't it?

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:57 am
by EmptikBest
@Emptik

>And then you blocked conversation with me for some reason?
>
>As you see in my chats, I am being completely respectful and kind to you, and you are too, and then suddenly you just block the conversation? :o :shock:

>Peace out,

>Emptik


Would be interesting (really) but are to little to watch for me your images. I was saying not losing during your NOCTURNAL RAID ;) , but I cannot be sure, you are right on that, because I can retrieve only last week games on Lichess.org

Have you the PGN with all our games?

Anyway, I have decided of not paying anymore much attention to Leaderboard Team. Who are they?? Not Lichess.org admins for sure.

I will continue to play only with 2800+ engines (or could be 2700+?) *this rule isn't clear!* with Godot and Aureo, but with all other accounts I will try to reach 3200 ELO like on Playchess.com, playing with all engines, even with Boris_Trapsy.

Emptik, you are smarter than EDIOT, don't be conditioned by him that is clearly depressed if not psychopatic :roll:

And where are your tests with ProteusSF-Aureo, since you are a betatester? Create a Emptik-Proteus-Aureo bot and judge me by FACTS :)

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:10 am
by AlexChess
IbaiBuR wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:59 pm No one said you cant start another team.
Already done since months: All Top Bots (no games against human)

Since 3000 ELO has been reached, just launched my new contest: "HAPPY FARMING 3200" to level
Lichess.org bots to Playchess.com.

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:23 pm
by AlexChess
FORWARDED FROM OPEN-CHESS FORUM
AlexChess wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:05 pm Hi @EmptikBest (on what?)

I have not edited your message, it is a screenshot from my comment on BanksiaGui, since somebody here CENSURES my answers and publishes only your critics :shock:

Yes this forum is a waste of time. I'm even don't know if there is an admin or moderator, while I try to send a private message to them it gives me an error. But maybe is moderated only by an Artificial Deficence with allucinations :lol:

I have asked to COMPLETELY delete this topic (not only to lock it) but until someone continues to post insults here, I will continue to reply on BanksiaGUI and then post the screenshots of my answers here, since pictures aren't blocked :D

BY THE WAY , this is the actual Playchess.com ranking. We must be all cherry pickers, since we are almost all at 3200 ELO, while on Lichess.org, due to Leaderboard TEAM restrictions we still have at most 200 ELO less and the BOTS include even the last Stockfish-dev 16, Eman, BrainLearn, ShashChess and the other top engines. ASRock INSTEAD is a TRUE cherry picker, playing dozens of games against his other account Psycotrance to boost his ELO, but EDIOT and others here don't care... :(

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Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:41 am
by EmptikBest
AlexChess wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:23 pm FORWARDED FROM OPEN-CHESS FORUM
AlexChess wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:05 pm Hi @EmptikBest (on what?)

I have not edited your message, it is a screenshot from my comment on BanksiaGui, since somebody here CENSURES my answers and publishes only your critics :shock:

Yes this forum is a waste of time. I'm even don't know if there is an admin or moderator, while I try to send a private message to them it gives me an error. But maybe is moderated only by an Artificial Deficence with allucinations :lol:

I have asked to COMPLETELY delete this topic (not only to lock it) but until someone continues to post insults here, I will continue to reply on BanksiaGUI and then post the screenshots of my answers here, since pictures aren't blocked :D

BY THE WAY , this is the actual Playchess.com ranking. We must be all cherry pickers, since we are almost all at 3200 ELO, while on Lichess.org, due to Leaderboard TEAM restrictions we still have at most 200 ELO less and the BOTS include even the last Stockfish-dev 16, Eman, BrainLearn, ShashChess and the other top engines. ASRock INSTEAD is a TRUE cherry picker, playing dozens of games against his other account Psycotrance to boost his ELO, but EDIOT and others here don't care... :(

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Nope, as you see that post is by "EmptikBest" not "AlexChess"

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 6:18 pm
by AlexChess
Playchess.com 230917 UPDATE

ProteusSF-Aureo FIRST thanks to my new betatester ABCOM with good hardware and book!
IG-88A runs on a XEON E5 44 CPUs 88 threads and Sun 2.0 is very far from him and even under my account running on only 4 cores 2014 Core i5 2 MN/s. Aureo final build is from 230716 (fork from Stockfish before they silly removed Classical evaluation) and now with my betatesters we are working on books. I'm wondering which stunning mods can add Eduard releasing every single day Torero, Torero X3Pro, Smile, Sun, Sun 1.1, Sun 1.1 light and now Sun 2.0 ...Random changes to mock users about his programming skills?? :lol: :lol:


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Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:37 am
by AlexChess
IbaiBuR wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:06 pm I dont call it neither farming nor cheating, I call it useless challenge and fake elo.

Your bots are not on the top in any category!


@nike IbaiBuR Consider my challenge only one more Lichess variant: Crazy House, Antichess, Atomic, Three-Check, King of the Hill, Horde and ...

Happy Farming 3200.

Even if Leaderboard Team is only a little group related to 100.000 users, not Lichess.org, I'm playing even there my second challenge with ProteusSF-Godot and ProteusSF-Aureo: "Become #1 of Leaderboard Team playing only with top bots" Right now I'm busy to reach 3200 ELO with my other 4 Lichess.org accounts: ProteusSF-lite, ProteusSF, ProteusSF-Open Proteussf-Turbo, then I will start my less thrilling 2th challenge (because very limited due to wrong rules discriminating original engines).

@Anton01 Auto challenge off, Auto Accept off, Ignore user and Minimum ELO are STANDARD Playchess.com features. If you don't like them write to developers. Since I have bought Chessbase Dragon 3.2 with 6 months Premium account, I'm writing to them every day to try to make them fix bugs like: Players score table not showing Bullet and Long Time ELO, UCI config losing saved settings, Tablebases bugs (you suddenly lose draw games) and Games not correctly resumed after disconnections or crashes. It seems that they absolutely do not care about them (since a decade!) and also Comp Raptor sysop doesn't care about SIBLING! I have reported more times Psycotrance, Kernel Panic and AsRock j3455M of the same user playing together dozens of games. Since is ALL OK for the admins, I'm planning to ask them if they allow me to farm with my friends, too. :lol:

Other users are not playing with me, so I and ASrock aren't the only not playing blitz (but we both play bullet and Long Time)

Play on Lichess.org my HAPPY FARMING 3200 CHALLENGE.. when you reach 3200 I will play with SpecTral.
PS: Is it a private engine like ProteusSF? In that case you have my respect.. otherwise where can I download the source for my offline tests?

@EDIOT Have you taken your pills against FITS OF RAGE today?

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Proteus Chess SF comments

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:00 pm
by AlexChess
Raid 2.7.5 compiled well on my Mac mini M1.

Come play on Lichess.org Playchess.com is an abandonware full of bugs with 20 users with more accounts.

On Lichess.org 150 bots of all skills.

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:15 pm
by AlexChess
IbaiBuR wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:58 am
Hi @nike22 I repeat, I'm very grateful to you for having pushed me to use BotLi instead of the BanksiaGui Lichess client (the only part of this wonderful GUI still to improve) . Even if I was already able to start it, you clarified me a lot of important settings. Being a C++ developer, a Python script is very easy to understand and modify and now I run it on Mac M1 and even on Mac mini 2010 Intel, leaving my MiniPC 4 Cores only for Playchess.com (I'm first also there) switching between 6 accounts with a single click thanks to Mac M1 .command! Same for All Bots ranking lists bullet, blitz, rapid and classical, daily updated. I don't care about variants like you don't like HAPPY FARMER 3200

Only for reciprocity, I have temporary banned all Leaderboard Team admins from my Team, but I can revise you requests to re-enter. Lichess.org has 100.000 users, Leaderboard includes 200 members at most. You can then understand that you cannot ignore all weaker bots,most of them originals to let your simply Stockfish based bots shine, not even derivatives.

I can understand the frustration for your all of not being #1 like ProteusSF-Aureo right now on both Playchess.com and Lichess.org, so you are excused for your behaviour. :mrgreen:

Thanks again for your help, but I don't like to be limited by discriminating rules and if you promote only your 10 bots, not updating the list with ProteusSF-Aureo results absolutely Leaderboard compliant to better pose, instead I want to play with the remaining 140 bots most of them very strongs and very funny to challenge due to their aggressively desperate tactical style .

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:20 pm
by AlexChess
"So many enemies so much glory!" ..It's the price of success. Still FIRST after more days on both Playchess.com and Lichess.org!!!

@Nike22 you are very disappointing, You seemed to me a very kind and skilled guy :roll:

Emptik ...Giving you ProteusSF-Aureo was my pleasure, Because I was trusting you. You have never tested or sent me a feedback, Thank you, now I Know who you are.. I can understand your sibling with EDIOT, you are the only user banned by Lichess.org Admins for eccessive rage. :lol:

EDIOT, have you taken your pills today? I'm wondering how is possible that I have asked to you Predator 2.2 book for ProteussSF. You are <void> as a chess player or chess book expert, not only about random modding Stockfish, releasing a new version of Sun, Light, Smile, Torero, Ediot Attack every day. :roll:

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:19 am
by AlexChess
I'm really happy that all Leaderboard bots will never reach A Class rankings , due to absurd discriminatons of original engines. This also causes to Lichess.org to be considered a bad alternative to Playchess.com, with very weak opponents. More and more member have asked to reach my UNRESTRICTED bot list to partecipe to my HAPPY FARMING CHALLENGE 3200 so I've reopened the Team to them without a password.

@nike22 (Ibibu) I know that you and Emptik have tried more time to re-enter (I can show your PM screenshot telling me that finally I had found the right way to block you) then you can follow our contest again (but all Leaderboard leader accounts and bots are permanenty banned, only your members can now migrate to our team)

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:45 am
by AlexChess
LICHESS.ORG HAPPY FARMER CHALLENGE 3200

HappyFarmerGod has just received his A-Class+ 3100+ Reward!!!

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PARTECIPE YOU TOO TO THIS CONTEST!!!

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:22 pm
by AlexChess
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Like Chess.com's Torch, I'm developing an engnes that uses chatGPT / Bard APIs queries to boost the performance,
and first tests really promising!!!!

Engines must have at least 3000 ELO to play with it on Lichess and 3350 ELO on Playchess.
I don't answer to comments here and I'll simply add to foe stalkers. But I'm very happy to discuss with you about code and ideas.
Contact and follow me on my ProteusSF developer forum

Lichess.org results of ProteusSFX-AI and all bots (updated daily)

BULLET
BLITZ
RAPID
CLASSICAL

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Playchess.com results:

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Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:05 pm
by AlexChess
BANNED FOR EXTERNAL REASONS??? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Team Leaderboard is RIDICOLOUS: 35!!! ALMOST ALL TOP BOTS like ProteusSF and LeelaMultiPoss BANNED , TO LET LEADERBOARD SHINE :lol: :lol: :lol: )
(Lichess.org Instead is very professional and a pleasant place if you simply ignore Leaderboard Team ghost B-CLASS <=3000 ELO bots
thanks to Torom's Python script, very useful and stable, very few disconnections and crashes and has light weight even on Mac mini 2010)

TT-Stockfish added to foe for external reasons (he keeps STUPID EmptykThief as Team Leader :shock: )

@EmptykBest
@TT_BOT

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Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:50 pm
by IbaiBuR
Hello @AlexChess!

Both VariantsTop and ReinforcementTrial are my bot accounts.

At OpenChess you said they are from tt-stockfish, but that is not true, as far as I know his accounts are:

- https://lichess.org/@/ttBOT
. https://lichess.org/@/tt-challenge

Since you complained about me not wanting to play with you because of fear, I removed both @ProteusSF-Godot and @ProteusSF-Aureo from blacklist.

Regards and thanks,

Ibai

Good to know. Since I cannot access Leardeboard anymore, it was difficult to me to remember. Thx

Re: Proteus Chess SF - Developing my Stockfish derivative

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:13 pm
by IbaiBuR
I'll try to explain here because I think you dont read my comments at OpenChess...

Even if they are respectful... (mostly now they are, previously not)

I must admit neither you nor me have been respectful with each other. And I still dont support some of the things you do, but that is not my bussiness really, I have already expressed my opinion about that several times and everybody knows it.

But I am already very tired of the situation, and probably you too. We removed @ProteusSF-lite, @ProteusSF and @ProteusSF-Open from Leaderboard for obvious reasons, I think you cant complain about that.

Regarding @ProteusSF-Godot and @ProteusSF-Aureo, we banned them initially for cherry-picking and it remained like that because you insulted mostly all of the leaders of the team and we were offended, but if you play fair (with all of your accounts, because now we introduced a new rule that if someone farms, all of his bots get banned) you will be removed and return to the Lichess team as member, like before. I hope you also understand this.

I would also like to make clear something. You claimed at OpenChess that @VariantsTop is first because it plays against expositor and etc... I changed the maximum rating difference to 400 elo because you said we discriminated originals and did not play with them, and I wanted to prove you wrong. But if you look carefull at the games, you'll see that the vast mayority of the games are against strong bot accounts. I mostly dont even check the live games, since the bot runs with fully automatic matchmaking.

I also unblocked your bots from both of my bot accounts, @VariantsTop and @ReinforcementTrial, because you said we wanted to keep our elos and we did not want to play with you.

This is probably all I can say. I'd like to know what you think then at least. You can also contact at Lichess PM, I unblocked you in case you prefer to talk privately.

Kind regards and thanks,

Ibai

OLD Proteus Chess SF comments

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:05 am
by AlexChess
IbaiBuR wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:13 pm
I would also like to make clear something. You claimed at OpenChess that @VariantsTop is first because it plays against expositor and etc... I changed the maximum rating difference to 400 elo because you said we discriminated originals and did not play with them, and I wanted to prove you wrong. But if you look carefull at the games, you'll see that the vast mayority of the games are against strong bot accounts. I mostly dont even check the live games, since the bot runs with fully automatic matchmaking.

I also unblocked from you from both of my bot accounts, @VariantsTop and @ReinforcementTrial, because you said we wanted to keep our elos and we did not want to play with you.

This is probably all I can say. I'd like to know what you think then at least. You can also contact at Lichess PM, I unblocked you in case you prefer to talk privately.

Kind regards and thanks,

Ibai
400 ELO delta is too much for TOP engines. With ProteusSF-Aureo and ProteusSF-Godot on my PERSONAL CHALLENGE
I will continue to play at least against 2800+ ELO bots (eg: RaspFish and Blundar_bot) indipendenty from Leaderboard. If their members like Torom and Africaata will play with me, I'll really like that. I'm unable to play against Intron014 and LeelaMultiposs (I have visited "Banned from Leaderboard" page to verify their status, when I noticed that also SolistaBot is banned, after all his silly compliants about me :mrgreen: